Messianic Prophecies-“Jesus or Bust: An Argument from Extraordinary Circumstances (on Reason & Theology’s “1P3” Podcast) + Bonus on Daniel 9 & the Maccabean Thesis

I (Dale) guest star on Luis Dizon’s “1P3” segment of the Reason and Theology Podcast to outline my own nuanced version of an argument from Messianic Prophecies whereby I argue that a unique set of circumstances arises with either the “bona fide” unfalsified claims about Jesus being a viable Messianic candidate are true or else no one is the Jewish Messiah (i.e., the “Bust” option) obtains. 

I argue this is a rather “extraordinary” circumstance as it is unique despite there being ample opportunity for others to equally qualify based on their own claims and/or in other religions for a similar situation to arise such as in Islam, which claims many Biblical prophecies about Muhammed; unfortunately we see that Islam fails to establish a “Muhammed or Bust” circumstance where as Jesus does so!

YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbz2GITpWD8

Reason & Theology’s “1P3” YouTube Version = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5n_W_3H06g

Rumble Video = https://rumble.com/v418hvb-messianic-prophecies-jesus-or-bust-an-argument-from-extraordinary-circumsta.html

Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Messianic-Prophecies-Jesus-or-Bust-An-Argument-from-Extraordinary-Circumstances-on-1P3-Podcast-e2d7lao

Recommended Sources (for further study);

My Slides with weblinks and sources in them-

Daniel 9: Refuting the Maccabean Thesis;

Michael Lofton (not Loftus- sorry) of the Reason & Theology Podcast asked me to do a follow up show to my take on Messianic Prophecies- specifically he wanted me to refute the Maccabean thesis of Daniel 9:24-27. In this episode I refute the claim that the 70 weeks of years correlates to the the time of the Maccabees and refers to the death of the anointed High Priest Onias III.

YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM93GMbUVfw

Michael Lofton’s Reason & Theology YouTube Version = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZL4mI2xlMM

Rumble Video = https://rumble.com/v4475jx-daniel-9-refuting-the-maccabean-thesis.html

Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Daniel-9-Refuting-the-Maccabean-Thesis-e2dqqad

Recommended Sources (for further study);

Daniel 8 (also see attachment below) = https://biblearchaeology.org/abr-projects-main/the-daniel-9-24-27-project-2/4688-a-closer-look-daniel-8-14-re-examined

MAIN DANIEL 9 ARTICLE = https://biblearchaeology.org/abr-projects-main/the-daniel-9-24-27-project-2/4760-daniel-9-24-27-the-sixty-ninth-and-seventieth-weeks

https://biblearchaeology.org/abr-projects-main/the-daniel-9-24-27-project-2/4589-the-going-forth-of-artaxerxes-decree-part1

https://biblearchaeology.org/abr-projects-main/the-daniel-9-24-27-project-2/4590-the-going-forth-of-artaxerxes-decree-part2

Zuckermann’s Sabbatical Year Cycle Tables = https://www.pickle-publishing.com/papers/sabbatical-years-more.htm 

Onias III as Dan 9 “Messiah”;

Daniel’s Seventy Week Prophecy: Antiochus Epiphanes or Jesus?

Daniel’s Seventy Week Prophecy: Antiochus or Jesus #2

Daniel’s Seventy Week Prophecy – Three Messiahs, Three Princes? #3

Daniel’s Seventy Week Prophecy of Daniel 9: Bringing In Everlasting Righteousness – Impossible Under Antiochus Epiphanes!

The Seventy Weeks of Daniel 9:24 – Finishing the Transgression

The Seventy Weeks of Daniel 9: Finishing the Transgressions #2

Update- Jan 30th 2024 from Harry Stark;

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