Evaluating the “Proto-Photo” Hypothesis (with SJ Thomason)

Fellow apologist, SJ Thomason, has invited me on to her show to do a series on the evidence for the Shroud of Turin. In this first installment, I explain my Minimal Relevant Features approach and how I apply that to evaluating Nicholas Allen’s “Proto-Photo” hypothesis for explaining the formation of the Shroud’s images.

YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUfHKsuO-I8

Rumble Video = https://rumble.com/v2kyfms-evaluating-the-proto-photo-hypothesis-with-sj-thomason.html

Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Evaluating-the-Proto-Photo-Hypothesis-with-SJ-Thomason-e236do3

*** Please Note that any helpful visual images pertaining to the Proto-Photo method in this show were used for educational purposes only and all due credit goes to Nicholas Allen for his primary work in this area.  Some images used should properly be attributed to “Allen, Nicholas P.L. – Verification of the Nature and Causes of the Photo-negative Images on the Shroud of Lirey-Chambery-Turin* [1995]“ & also some from Barrie Schwortz’s paper Is The Shroud of Turin a Medieval Photograph?: A Critical Examination of the Theory”. 

My thanks to both of them for their hard work in advancing our knowledge of the Shroud!

MY SLIDES FOR THIS SHOW;

Recommended Sources (for further study);

A) MY 300-PAGE WRITE UP AND TABLE;

B) Lists of Shroud Image Features;

Also see another helpful “All-in-One” Source;

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c) Proto Photo Related Papers;

See my Own 300-page Shroud write up above (see p.173-188) for more details on these types of image-forming mechanisms.

Proto-Photo Method/s Sources:

Nicholas Allen’s Short 3-4 min Video (2017) = https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/smithsonian-channel/is-this-the-worlds-first-photograph/

The above link is now defunct, but see the CNN doumentary mentioning Allen’s theory in his own words starting approx. around the 30 min mark to the 34 min mark = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Ns2OAAM5o 

Blogs on Nicholas Allen’s Proto-Photo technique and results = http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2007/07/leonardo-man-behind-shroud-3.html

& also = http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2016/08/medieval-photography-nicholas-allen.html#5 

Allen’s own Paper entitled, “Verification of the Nature and Causes of the Photo-negative Images on the Shroud of Lirey-Chambéry-Turin” (with the images removed stating; “Dr Allen’s original article contained a great deal of illustrative material which could not be reproduced on Internet. But his book on this subject will be available early in 1996, published by Janus, UK.”) = http://www.sunstar-solutions.com/AOP/esoteric/Images_on_the_Shroud_of_Turin.htm 

Allen’s 1993 paper entitled, “Is the Shroud of Turin the First Recorded Photograph?” = https://www.academia.edu/26328443/Is_the_Shroud_of_Turin_the_First_Recorded_Photograph

Allen’s 2017 book entitled, “Turin Shroud: Testament to a Lost Technology” from Amazon here = https://www.amazon.com/Turin-Shroud-Testament-Lost-Technology/dp/3330325313

Isabel Piczek on the “Leonardo Davinci Thesis” being nonsense (July 30th, 2015) approx. around the 3:00-10:00 min mark of video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwFDoF4NgsM

Is The Shroud of Turin a Medieval Photograph?- A Critical Examination of the Theory by Barrie M. Schwortz = https://www.shroud.com/pdfs/orvieto.pdf OR (attached below)

Five Reasons Why Some Christians are Shroud Skeptics by Barrie M. Schwortz = https://www.shroud.com/pdfs/fivereasons.pdf OR (see below)

CNN’s “Finding Jesus”: Disingenuous Look at Turin “Shroud”- Famous Shroud skeptic Joe Nickell says “Proto-Photo” methods are foolisness = https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/cnns_finding_jesus_disingenuous_look_at_turin_shroud/?_ga=2.246493060.1601906892.1502386546-415514461.1502386546

The Image on the Shroud of Turin: Clues from the Volckringer and Russell Effects by Allan Mills (while giving his own failed naturalistic  mechanism hypothesis (see my evaluation of them in my 300-page Shroud chapeter attached above), he addresses some problem with Proto-Photo methods on p.2), see here = https://www.shroud.com/pdfs/n56part4.pdf OR (see below).

D) Anatomy Paper;

E) Previous Related Shows;

Shroud Solo Show (Part 11)- Sunlight-Based Hypotheses (Proto-Photo, Shadow & Solar Reflex Models) + Bonus Part 11B on Boiling and Painting Emulsion Methods

Shroud Solo Shows (Part 1-10)- My 300-page Shroud Chapter & S&S Lectures (Shows #1-10)

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